Here are some of the responses. LOTS of good information here!:
It's
fairly easy to pick up a shift from a major key to minor or vice versa. A good
example is almost every Ghost in 3.0. The song itself is in A minor and the jam
starts off there but then goes into a major key. My favorite example is
12/31/10, check out the video below - the change from major to minor happens
just around 6:45. If you can't pick it up as it happens, listen to part of the
jam in the beginning and then skip towards the end, it’s night and day. The way this usually works is knowing about
relative minor keys, which are keys that have the same key signature (or set of
notes) as a corresponding major key so that Ghost jam's minor key is A and
relative major key is C.
Now picking up between keys (like from A major to E major) is a bit more
difficult for me to do because the feel of the sound doesn't change like from a
major to minor shift, just the tones change, however it’s not too hard to pick
up. I can usually pick up a key change because it just sounds different. A
great example is Tweezer (in A) vs. Tweezer Reprise (in D). There’s some difference other than the key
like tempo, but basically Reprise is more energizing because it’s in a higher
key. But this is hard to figure out usually I don't know what key(s) they
switch to unless I'm very familiar with the song or I have my guitar in front
of me.
To put
it more simply C Major (or C Ionian as it is called modally), D Dorian, E
Phrygian, F Lydian, G Mixolydian, A Aeolian and B Locrian all contain the same
notes. No matter what you do with these modes they will also always contain the
same notes. Now the difference between them is the "tonal center"
which is the first note of the mode (ex. D dorian the tonal center is D) and
this note is what gives them their unique sound. Some of these modes give a
more minor sound (Dorian, Phrygian, Aeolian, Locrian), some will have a major
sound (Ionian, Lydian) and some a dominant sound (Mixolydian). Phish sometimes
utilizes multiple modes which they vamp on (Reba) and sometime will only play
over one for a prolonged period of time (Ghost). The way that Phish modulates
is by shifting their tonal center as has been stated before, but also they will
change modes using the same tonal center but a different modal structure (ex.
in Ghost they often modulate from C major to C mixolydian, which is
accomplished by flattening the 7th scale degree of C major in the case B
becomes Bb). Playing modally is one of the easier methods of improvisation, but
to be good at it you have to listen to the other members of the group and rely
on insinuating chord changes rather than actually changing chords (Page does
this most often by changing the inversion of the chord he is playing, thus
emphasizing a different note in the chord).
One
thing I wanted to bring up - traditional western musical theory is not the only
way to master complex musical forms (as found in the Phish). Don't take it for
granted that this is the only approach to music even though it works for a ton
of people, it's also important to do some experimenting around how your mind
best retains and processes information. Perhaps you work better with visual
patterns on the fretboard, or 'hear' scales/chords/modes instead of assigning
them a theoretical equivalent.
The one piece of the puzzle that never lets up is that it's a ton of work to
build up the mad skillz you need to write/improvise/groove on a high level.
Find your system and stick with it for years, push yourself to do a ton of ear
training and improvising with other musicians. Phish plays the way they do
because of their work ethic and commitment to creative music, not because they
have mastered theory (OK maybe there is a teeny bit of natural talent in the
mix as well...).
This
sort of combines the stuff that
@kipmat and
@popsgordon123 said above.
In most Phish's jams, you can break it down to 2 basic ways that they tend to
modulate between modes: relative modulation & parallel modulations. There
are countless books written on this stuff, but I'll try to trim it down to just
one post on .net.
Relative modulations are
when the root note changes, but the pool of notes in the scale stays the same
(I.E. A Dorian -> D Mixolydian).
Most people learn the modes the way it sounds like
@ghostbuster is getting
into it. Learn the major scale (let's use C major as an example). When you
start that same scale on D instead of C, you end up playing a D Dorian scale...
different root chord (D minor vs C major), same pool of notes for the scale.
That's the basic idea of relative modulation. Using 3.0 Ghosts as an example,
it's pretty common (especially this past summer) for the band to use a relative
modulation to go from the type 1 funk vamp into type 2 bliss territory. They
start the jam out in A Dorian (A, B, C, D, E, F#, G) to kick off the type 1
portion. They move into the bliss section by jumping up to D Mixolydian (D, E,
F#, G, A, B, C). They haven't changed the pool of notes, but by moving up to D,
the root chord moves from A minor to D major, giving it that happy and
uplifting feeling. As a side-note... relative modulation is also the basis for
the chord scale theory of jazz improv, which a lot of improv methods fall back
on. If you play guitar/bass, knowing the relative modes is essential to opening
up the fretboard and getting out of those box scale shapes on the root.
Just to break down the relative modulations farther, here's how it would work
across the 7 modes using the same pool of notes from the generic 2014 Ghost
example above. The first note in each mode is the root, but the individual
notes are all the same.
G Ionian: G, A, B, C, D, E, F#
A Dorian: A, B, C, D, E, F#, G
B Phrygian: B, C, D, E, F#, G, A
C Lydian: C, D, E, F#, G, A, B
D Mixolydian: D, E, F#, G, A, B, C
E Aeloian: E, F#, G, A, B, C, D
F Locrian: F#, G, A, B, C, D, E
Depending on the goal of the jam, Phish could modulate to any of those modes
simply by changing the root chord (just build the triad from the notes to find
the appropriate root chord... Mixolydian would be D, F#, A... D major). Each
mode is going to have a different feel even though the notes are the same. It's
the tonal center (root chord) that is making them sound different.
Parallel modulations happen
when the root note of the scale stays the same, but the pool of notes in the
scale changes (I.E. C Mixolydian -> C Dorian). Parallel modulations can be a
little harder for a band to pull off without it sounding completely jarring.
This is because of the fact that you're changing the pool of notes that you're
working with. One of the more common ways Phish does this is when Trey leads
the band from a major-sounding Mixolydian jam into a bluesy Dorian jam. There
are plenty of DwD's that dive from D Mixolydian into D Dorian as soon as Trey
lays down a big blues riff. There are countless other times where the band
slips back and forth between parallel modes without being so up front about it,
so the above was just one example.
I think the idea of modulating between parallel modes is where people tend to
feel like they're getting in over their heads with this stuff. It can be
daunting to try to think about what notes you'd need to change to modulate
between 2 parallel modes. Look at how we tend to learn them. We go in order of
appearance in the Ionian scale, and we end up jumping all over the place as far
as adding sharps and flats goes. I'll use C major as the starting point for
simplicity.
C Ionian: C, D, E, F, G, A, B
C Dorian: C, D, Eb, F, G, A, Bb
C Phrygian: C, Db, Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb
C Lydian: C, D, E, F#, G, A, B
C Mixolydian: C, D, E, F, G, A, Bb
C Aeloian: C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb
C Locrian: C, Db, Eb, F, Gb, Ab, Bb
Seriously... it's hard to think of a logical way to think of modulating on the
fly when it just looks like a jumble of flats and sharps being added. As soon
as someone told me to reorganize the modes into the circle of 5ths instead of
learning them in the traditional order, the lightbulb turned on in my head. So
if we reorganize the list above starting with the Lydian mode, the list will be
set up in order most uplifting sounding mode at the top to the darkest mode at
the bottom. The biggest advantage to looking at it this way is that you only
have to change one note at a time as you go down the list.
C Lydian: C, D, E, F#, G, A, B
C Ionian: C, D, E, F, G, A, B (flat 4th)
C Mixolydian: C, D, E, F, G, A, Bb (flat 4th, 7th)
C Dorian: C, D, Eb, F, G, A, Bb (flat 4th, 7th, 3rd)
C Aeloian: C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb (flat 4th, 7th, 3rd, 6th)
C Phrygian: C, Db, Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb (flat 4th, 7th, 3rd, 6th, 2nd)
C Locrian: C, Db, Eb, F, Gb, Ab, Bb (flat 4th, 7th, 3rd, 6th, 2nd, 5th)
NOW it starts to make some logical sense, because you can start to look at
modulations by changing only one note at a time. Moving between adjacent modes
keeps the thought process to a minimum because you're only changing one note.
More importantly, it keeps the modulation from sounding too jarring, because
you're not changing a bunch of notes at once. It's also easier for the band as
a whole to slip from one mode to another if they only have to change one note.
As a bonus, if Phish is jamming in Dorian, the band can make a pretty educated
guess that any parallel modulation is going to be to Aeolian or Mixolydian.
That cuts the likely options down considerably, which is pretty helpful in
improv. This is also one reason why Phish jams are so heavily based on Dorian
and Mixolydian. It's a very easy and smooth way to make a parallel modulation
between major and minor based modes.
There are plenty of other ways Phish keeps jams interesting, some of which go
way over my head, but relative/parallel modulation is a BIG one. When you hear
key changes in a jam, it's most likely a relative modulation or a parallel
modulation to one of the adjacent modes in the list that was reorganized by the
circle of 5ths.
Some
good stuff in here for sure. I'll second Lephty's site. Lots of good stuff on
there.
Some people started getting into modes a bit. There's a lot of mud in how they
can be presented though. For starters, I might back off on that and go first to
chord tones. Learn chords EVERYWHERE on the neck. Almost every Phish tune has a
progression that they improvise over. If you can grab chord tones from each one
then you're good to go. The non-chord tones don't matter at that point as far
as scales/modes. Any note is fair as long as there is resolution to a chord
tone.
Start simple. Just chord tones. Maybe stay in one position on the neck. Once
you are comfortable there, challenge yourself to shift up a few frets and find
some more chord tones. You don't have to play a ton here. Just make sure you
are choosing the right notes! Once you're comfortable with all of this, start
to grab a note that is one fret above or below a chord tone and go back to the
chord tone. Hear that resolution! Next, look for common tones between changes
and notes that will be a whole step apart. Use the note between the whole step
as a chromatic passing tone. It can go on quite a bit from here. You can
approach any chord tone from a half step above or below it. I can't think of
any exceptions off hand.
These are some things that I've done to try to get into the theory of it. You'll
start to hear the functions of each chord and where each note wants to resolve.
You'll want to know where the chords are diatonic (belonging to the same scale)
and when two chords are derived from different scales, but if you've got the
chords down, the scales can be less important (sometimes).
As I said, most of their tunes are progressions. Take ACDC Bag. The chords are
A C D C F A G. Don't worry about a scale. Just play the notes from each chord.
Sample In a Jar - A C G D A E Em D. Right away you can figure that the A and C
chords are not diatonic because A (major) has a C# in it. C major does not.
(Obviously, because it's C!). However, C G and D all come from the same scale.
So, if you want, you can use a G major scale over all of these, but you really
want to emphasize chord tones still. G D and A can also come from the same
scale (D major or a relative mode depending on root emphasis). This gives you
two options for scales over the G and D. Next, D A and E come from the A major
scale. More options there. E and Em obviously don't come from the same scale
but Em and D can. The first E (major) is linked to the chords above it. The Em
has more in common with the chord that follows, D. That's from D major or E
Dorian. Maybe a little confusing at first but when you've done this stuff for
years and years it gets a lot easier.